Sorry, I disagree, once youve turned your back you should be made an example of, it wouldnt have the integrity and conviction it has if anyone can just hop on and off whenever they want to.....I dont care if people think Im an asshole....you cant buy your way in, but you can sell yourself out.

I'll have to agree with Chester on this one. The fact is Straight Edge is much more than a label. It's not a sticker or lapel button that you can put on and take off at your own discretion. If you break edge then you ready to be edge in the first place.

I say with with all the love and goodness in my heart: Don't worry about being "edge" worry about getting SOBER.

If you are breaking edge it's because you have some underlying issue(s) that make you turn back to drugs/alcohol/cigs. Once you take care of those issues and realize that you are more than poison you consume... Then you will be edge, the TRUE edge.

With those other issues taken care of you won't ever have to worry about giving in.

i sorta disagree, it's a commitment. it's like getting married and then cheating on your spouse. it's horrible. once you commit to it. you cant turn your back and expect to be back on it.

I think you can do whatever you want with that part... because you don't stay edge to be cool, or to be accepted by others. That would be really lame actually!

you stay edge coz it's good for you and YOU, in the first place, liked that philosophy and chose to commit to it.

Well, thats my point of view...

i agree with everyone above me. honestly, if you claim edge and then break it, i don't feel that it would be right to still call yourself edge. it's giving a bad name to the other edge kids that stay true. it's not okay to be edge one day and decide not to the next. but also, i'm totally not into hating on sell-outs, cause i mean it's their decision, their life, their mistake, not yours. don't get me wrong, it's sincerely disappointing when i hear someone broke edge, but there's no excuse to hate them for making a decision in their life. but to avoid all this, just stay edge if you claim it! :]

In my opinion once you break edge, that it. There's no going back. The whole idea of commitment becomes trivialized.

If you aren't now you never were.

in dont believe in "going back to sxe", maybe drugfree, but edge means a forever commitment

I do think that there is a clear difference between "hopping on and off", and failing at something you aspire to be because you are only human. I believe there is a lot of strength and courage in accepting failiure and getting back on track, and that it shouldn't be met with a could shoulder, but with a open hand. And in the first place, one is edge for themselves, right? not for the acceptance of some community, or to be judged by some "I'm more straight-edge than you"-mentality. People who are only half-comitted are not the same as people who REclaim edge. Empty slogans like "If you aren't now you never were." make me afraid that being straight edge isn't about positive personal change and claiming responsability over your own actions anymore. But maybe I'm getting old.

If you claim it again, its like spitting straight edge in the face. in my opinion.

I've been to a lot of parties where there's drugs and alcohol, and I have always declined, and just been DD (my parents let me try it a few years, and I just didn;t like the taste...haven't touched it since). I really love a lot of aspects in the straight edge community, but I don't want to say that I'm straight edge, cause I figure that I'll probably want a glass of champagne on my wedding day...so does a glass of wine once in a blue moon for special ocassions mean that I can't be straight edge? or can I still identify myself with this group without being a hypocrite?

not to sound rude but everyone that has pretty much answered have been under 21. i honestly dont know any one in my age group that has had the commetment like i have. the ones that are 21 to maybe 25 have dropped the label and moved one with there life. i know some people that were dropped the label because it wasnt right for them but realized later that it was the right thing for them. unless you deal with these types of people on a daily, you will NEVER understand what they go through. it's not a spit in the face to the community. there are shitty people in ANY group and maybe another reason why labels shouldn't be used. it makes us ALL look bad...

Like cheetah said above, if you aren't now then you never were. If you can't keep a promise to yourself then you can't keep a promise.

I'm over 25 and I've been edge since 1999. Recently two of my close and dearest friends just broke and I'm ok with that. But while they now occasionally go out to bars and drink a little too much I'm still here. I always will be. I agree, it's disrespectful to me, all the people who claim and the movement itself.

thats the stupidest shit I've ever heard, straight edge is a lifetime commitment, you cant just not be edge, then be edge, then not be edge, it loses its meaning.

i am glad that you appreciate the straight edge community and what it stands for, but if you make a commitment to yourself that your going to refrain from drinking, smoking and drugs. then that is it..there is no drinking smoking or drugs.

so no, i wouldn't say saying your straight edge but drinking on occasion
like wedding day etc.. would be okay.
because you would be drinking and that is opposite of what straight edge
is all about in the first place. not to be rude, but..that is pretty much
opposite of what the straight edge commitment is all about.

your straight edge for yourself so if you make a mistake and realize wat youve done was wrong and come back stronger from it your more straight edge than before dont worry bout all these other people saying your a poser because if they were truly edge then they would encourage you and support you and help you overcome your problems not down you and make you hate straight edge

"if they were truly edge then they would encourage you and support you and help you overcome your problems not down you and make you hate straight edge"

So apparently part of being straight edge is being nice to people who break edge? Look choosing to be edge is a personal choice so if you want to drink or don't then good for you. In the end though if you do drink after calling yourself edge then you have let yourself down which is worse than anything anyone else can ever say to you.

i think if your edge you should carry yourself like your a nice person and make people think of edge as a positive thing. im from mississippi and when i go to jackson the kids there hate edge because they hear about it as voilent and negative and they dont wont it in their scene so yes i think you should be nice and have a positive attitude

I understand what you mean about being nice but at the same time I can only be myself. I'm not out to sell straight edge, I think it's something people need to come to on their own terms. If people hate you for something they know nothing about then they're ignorant and not worth trying to convince.

i just wish edge had a better image then wat people think about it, last show i went to i came closed to gettin in fights because kids in Jackson just hate edge for some odd reason

yeah, you shouldn't re-claim. really, the label shouldn't be your main focus anyways. stay sober and clean. keep a clear mind. if you can do that for life without claiming the title "straight edge" then realistically, it's the same thing anyways. but, once you have broken you shouldn't re-claim for the sake of the other straight edge people that have kept there commitment to it.

to wat xxxbrianxxx said earlier, you obviously are a toughguy huh? look dude just because somebody is edge and decides its not right for them then thats no reason to give them a beat down, thats just ignorant, maybe if someone is bragging about how sxe he is with a cigarette in his hand and a beer in another maybe then is that necessary, but i still think if someone thinks maybe its not right for them then decides it was in the end and reclaims it then they are still edge, but if hopping on and off becomes a habbit then they are truely not edge

Lets face it,
Most of you kids writing on here are 16-20...drinking is an option, but its easier to stay edge when its illegal for you to break it. Straight Edge is supposed to be a community, a family...families don't beat each other up when a member does something they disagree with. That's not a family, that is an angry group of closed minded individuals who hate people who disagree with them. Everything YOU stand for in life, is your own opinion, whether it is wrong or destructive or whatever...It is your opinion. I am not straight edge, and I could care less if all of you tweenage jonas brother loving scene kids hate it or not. I am 22, I can drink if I want, it is all about discretion. I find it funny that so many kids who are so tough and hate people who break edge or don't claim it all look to bands like verse and have heart and blah blah blah and thats why they believe what they believe. Have heart has a reason they are edge, its not because a band they like sings about it like most of you "no-talent-diaper-wearing, never been on the streets, never experienced life out-of-suburbia" kids do. Live what you believe...believe what YOU believe. Use your own mind. Stop following the trend, your just another kid with eyeliner or another kid with xxx on his calf. I know a ton of em. and rarely do they know why they believe what they believe, and thats why they turn to violence when someone disagrees. It is immaturity at its highest level. It is hypocrisy. It is foolish. I respect people with their own values and belief system and while I do not agree with a life of alcoholism or of tobacco addiction or narcotics, I am not going to beat them up for it. I would rather become their friend and equal and point them to a better way to live. Not straight edge, just a better way to live.

Ryan...i love you

I couldn't have said it better than Ryan.

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if you are not 21 you cant be straight edge so shut up. you are required by law to be straightedge under 21 so its not as much of a choice as you think. when you can legally drink, then you can claim to be straightedge by not doing so. thats is for the real hardcore straightedgers.

I'm 27 but I would disagree, it's ridiculously easy to get drugs or alcohol no matter what age you are.

Once you break you can't go back, that's just how it goes, sorry bud.
BTW:
Its just DISAPPOINTING when someone breaks edge
In Florida, NO ONE in hardcore is straightedge; seriously its a fucking joke. I'm not angry, and the only thing I'm thinking is "oh boy, another one breaking a promise; another one down". I am seriously the ONLY straightedge girl in the Tampa area, and it fucking sucks. If i saw one of the few straightedge kids left break, of course I'm going to be sad/disappointed/whatever. I know in the north, like Ohio and Mass and stuff, everyone is straightedge so its not a big deal if someone breaks- its thoroughly accepted in the hardcore scene there. If you're not straightedge, i don't think you have room to talk about this subject. you will never know the heart these kids put into this, or what they've been through. don't talk about "everything is better in moderation" when some people just have addictive type A personalities and know their bodies well enough to stay away from it. If your not edge, yeah you see everything second hand, but you'll never truly understand until you really are straightedge; that's something i cant explain.
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS,
ITS ALL ABOUT WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND HOW YOU WERE RAISED
there's an infinite amount of variables thrown into this equation, and there probably isn't a right answer.

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Sista why are there Tampa straight edge bands if nobody in that area is straight edge?

Ok well it was stated multiple times that you "can't be sXe under the age of 21" er watever blah blah blah but honestly, yes you can. I'm edge and yes, while i may be only 15, i've seen narcotics and shit fuck up the lives of others around me. others who are MY age. so honestly, don't jus say that those who can't legally obtain something shouldn't swear it off, cuz all the jonas brother-cock-loving-posse-who-try-to-call-themselves-hardcore-cuz-they-wore-skinny-jeans-one-day are out drinking and snortin shit until they black out fer the next five days. And those are people my age. So yeah, we can certainly get a hold of shit if we want.
And I don't want to. That is a promise I've made to myself personally. Not everyone has to agree with it or hell, even know about it, but that's just bullshit to say that people my age are too naive in to decide what we do or don't want to do with our lives and bodies.

ive been thinking about this and its probably better to wait til in your twenties because your brain doesnt quit developing till your twenty five but that doesnt take away the fact that drugs are easy to get your hands on at any age but claiming edge is a big thing so its probably better to stay drug free then when you reach maturity, if your still wanting to, then claim edge

IF YOUR NOT NOW YOU NEVER WERE

also if you beat people up cuz there not edge or they broke edge your and idiot.Then kids wonder why cops call sxe a gang.sxe is about bettering yourself not policing everyone else.Im not say you should help people if there addicted to drugs or alcohol but beating them up is not helping.Im sxe and have been for 6 years for the first 4 i didnt know any other edge kids and i didnt realy care i choose not to do all that shit for me and me only.I have friends who drink and smoke and i have edge friends too.As long as you show respect to me ill do the same to you and thats how it should be.As for if you break edge can you go back i say no but thats just me.IF YOUR NOT NOW YOU NEVER WERE

can somebody please breakdown what 'if your not now then you never were" for me. because at one point in everyone whos edge life they werent edge so i guess thats means if they werent then they arent now right? then whats the point lol? that is a meaningless phrase if you ask me

The word "weren't" is past tense so the phrase has nothing to do with saying you aren't edge now if you weren't in the past. What it means is you weren't edge in the past if you aren't now. Straight Edge is a lifetime commitment you make to yourself. So if you called yourself edge in the past and you aren't now then you never were because you broke that commitment.

no i think they were edge pretty much til the point they broke edge . so yea, that phrase pretty much doesnt make since...suck it

I chose to be straight edge because i know i have an addictive personality. My dad is an alcoholis and my moms family is alcoholics. I knew that if i was straight edge then i would never have to deal with drugs/tabacco/etc. Also i am from Massachusetts and the only straight edge girl in my town.

straight edge is a life long commitment. that doesn't mean five years, or ten years or twenty years; it means for LIFE, for as long as you live. let's say you have been edge for 15 years, and then you break. that means you were never truly straight edge in the first place, because you obviously weren't committed for life. if you're not now, you never were.

i was at a party and a trusted friend of mine tricked me into drinking alcohol,he like spiked my drink , i only had a few sips before he started laughing at me . i was really hurt , he had no idea how much he upset me and just laughed it off. i really expected my freinds to respect my choice not to drink.i still consider myself edge as it wasnt a intentional, but he teases me about and fucking infuriates me , he just dosnt understand how seriusly i take this..

I ran across this site while researching Jomsocial and I think it's neat outreach for people that need it (I used to run one of these sites back in high school). However, when I read things like "made an example of", it reminds of the self righteous bullshit that's inherent this "scene" that I'm proudly NOT part of. I stopped considering myself X after six years because it didn't do anything for me. I've been not edge for 5 years and have never been irresponsible with drugs/alcohol. It's a collectivist religion used as a crutch instead of self control (think purity rings). You should be the one in control of your life and not have a hardcore band sell you on the virtues of not being a drunken ass. So yes I guess I never really was edge according to some. I'm glad.

you claim edge for the wrong reasons, and you break...and then years down the road you happen to claim again because you are sincerely ready to devote yourself to the commitment. it's not anywhere near the same as jumping on and off a bandwagon...and i feel like that should be encouraged. Half of the opinions expressed here are exactly the reason straightedge hasn't attracted many people lately, and i feel as though that's a problem.

In my Town, some Edge people do not even talk to me because of the fact I thought about claiming and said I was giving it all up but then realized I am giving all this up for the wrong reasons. I decided I want to quit drinking recently and trust me it has been a tough process but I think I can manage it.

Once you break edge, you're not edge anymore.
If you broke edge, it means that you don't believe in the edge ways. When you broke edge, it means you didn't care about the beliefs, just "fun". So, you can stop drinking and such and be clean but don't expect to get respect from straight edge kids.
People who are edge and not back and forth make the people who are true to it look bad.

I think the whole "let's be violent towards other people because they drink/smoke" thing is stupid. I am straightedge, and I honestly don't think being violent is going to make someone change their ways, that's plain idiotic. I am, by far, the only straightedge kid in my whole family, and I get a ton of shit about it. Recently, all of my cousins and even some of my friends stepped up and admitted that they thought it was actually kind of cool that I don't do anything they do and that they actually respect me for it because they know they would never be able to do it. So if people are giving you shit about it, give it time and they'll come to their senses because I had to wait for 3 years to hear what I already knew, and that was how they respected me

to what THE GIRL said,
thank you for saying what ive been sayng for years

violence towards somebody because they drink and/or smoke is so childish
your only hurting straight edge not helping it
it turns everyone against us because they see us as a whole
youre representing a movement
show some respect for others opinions
treat others as you would like to be treated
violence should be a last resort out of self defense not something abused to get your opinion across
because all your doing is turning the one you beat up against us
your not solving anything
that person is still going to drink/smoke (maybe even more after being attacked) the only thing changed is that s/he now thinks straight edge sucks

The consequences of breaking edge mostly lie on where you live,
If you live in a big city with a huge hardcore scene and claim edge,
its a possibility that ever breaking edge can get you in some serious trouble. straightedge is a family, not just some "trend".
Don't claim edge if you don't KNOW that you won't fall out on it,
because even if there aren't physical consequenses,
there are emotional ones.

If you "break" edge, becoming edge again is just a dumb decision and could get your ass beat.

true story.

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Everyone is entitled to making a mistake, no one is perfact. who are we to judge. If the mistake was made one time, I see no reason with not staying edge, its when you make that mistake again.

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sooo CHESTER your saying if someone is sober in a program, like A.A. and they don't drink for like 10 years. and relapse.. your saying, its untrue to say they refrained from alcohol for 10 years?.. eh. think what you want i guess but its hard for me to agree with you.. i could be a republican half my life then change to socialist, doesnt mean i wasn't a republican.. and i could change back if i want to.. as many times as i want in fact!! all it means. is i don't have very strong convictions.

anyone else think this is funny?

posted above:
...
written by Cain, February 11, 2009
i just wish edge had a better image then wat people think about it, last show i went to i came closed to gettin in fights because kids in Jackson just hate edge for some odd reason

FOLLOWED BY THE ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION..
...
written by xxxbrianxxx, February 20, 2009
if somebody i know breaks edge me and my friends give them a serious beat down. its not a joke or a trend to us.


break edge. break face. people who break edge are losers and scum.

THANKS FOR REMINDING ME WHY I USED TO HATE EDGE KIDS

Everyone on this stupid blog is talking about how you should wait until you're in your 20s to claim edge. Shut up. That's not what this person asked. They asked, "If I break edge does that mean I can't be Straight Edge anymore?" I think the answer is yes. If you claim edge, and you break it by smoking or drinking, you obviously aren't a true straight edge kid. You would be looked at like a poser, if you claimed edge again.

I was edge in high school because I thought it would be cool to be different from everyone else, when I got out of high school I started to drink a bit, now that I'm 21 and I've done some stupid shit I don't think it is a problem to reclaim for the right reason this time. Before anyone go nuts on me hear me out, in school it was cool to drink and do all that but I didn't care, I realize now that being edge is the only thing that could keep me sane and keep me going through life without ending up in the gutters, so the fact that I am now trying to make a drastic life change is wrong to some people I'm sure but I know straight edge people that say it perfectly cool to go back now that I know whats going on and what I want to do with my life.

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I recently broke edge around the start of summer this year, and I constantly feel like I have made the biggest mistake in my life. I realized I was straight edge for all of the wrong reasons. I know there is probably no going back to straight edge, but I am still going to live my life soberly for myself.

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Heres my thought if it helps & encourages somebody to sustain from D&A.... SXE in my eyes shoud truly be about 1 thing and 1 thing alone... SOBRIETY....... not following the crowd and being willing to stand up for something OTHER than the things of this world that kill & destroy lives everyday. Whether your an addict, alcoholic, teen, adult, it should remain the same....... SOBER 4 life.... no better feeling in the world and the best word to describe it....."CLARITY"...... It's NOT a religious thing, NOT a spiritual thing, NOT a racist thing, NOT a fad thing..... it's a SOBER thing. Keep your head up always STR8 EDGERS... 1

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if you sell out, guess what! YOUR A SELL OUT!
you couldnt stay true, then drink,do drugs, cool, dandy, whatever.
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straight edge is nothing if all you do all day is think about steppin on the nearest cig smoker or beer drinker. I'd rather be a little out of my head than be a dick to 90% of the people i meet. Maybe when edge stops with the tough guy front I'll x my hands and all that jazz, but until then i'll just be sober.

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to add again...to "what the hell?"
Do you even know what you're speaking on? You sound like a complete moron. Yeah someone can live a sober clean life after having their kicks with substances they have to claim edge. Please people who don't think before you speak/type just don't do it.

I think that when you break that's it. It's a lifetime commitment to be Straight Edge you don't just claim it whenever it's convenient to you. Also someone said:"You can't be straight edge unless your 21". I totally disagree actually i think that is total bullshit. Just because your can't legally get alcohol or drugs doesn't mean you don't have access to them at all. There are people who are 12 years old getting drunk and getting high so don't even say that.

Me personally, I was a heroin addict/everything else addict. I quit hard drugs and became a veggie, then a couple years later realized the weed/cigs/alcohol was ruining my life just as bad and decided to go edge. I still struggled with the cigarettes for like three months, quitting and relapsing, etc. Does that mean I can't claim edge?
I don't think so.
It's a lifetime commitment, its not to be trivialized, if you know better, do better, and one puff makes you an addict
But edge is about staying positive and true and spreading that to others and being an example. If you can hold yourself up as an example, then do so by all means.
Especially when surrounded by drug dealers in your neighborhood.

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The answer to this issue is really not anywhere, as straight edge is based off of a few Minor Threat songs. I'm sure people do go around breaking edge when they turn 21 for a week and coming back to it and not telling anybody, but I always believed you are only straight edge once. Breaking just makes everything you stood for a lie. Going back to it makes you look like an unstable hypocrit. It is a lifelong commitment. If you do end up breaking, it doesn't mean you can't live your life sober anyway. Don't demoralize straight edge because you made a mistake when plenty of others don't. Move on.

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