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Preconceived Notions Within Hardcore: Gender & Stereotypes

Originally Published: Tuesday, December 13, 2005
Written by: Lauren Cantos 

Reflecting on Women’s Progress

We’ve come a hell of a long way since the early 1900’s, from being not allowed to do practically anything to living our own lives for us and no one else. But if most girls really want freedom why be condemned to the title of “coat rack”.

Challenging Stereotypical Roles at Shows

In my opinion, by letting ourselves and this word rule the way we behave and tell us our ‘places’ at shows, we are truly taking one huge step backwards. Now, I understand that some girls are old fashioned and like the idea of women being submissive to their man or just men in general, but in all honesty, how do we expect to progress when we aren’t all even together on the same page?

Confronting Assumptions and Sexism in the Scene

A major problem within the scene is the way girls assume other girls are fakes and are there just to stare at the boy playing guitar in his tight jeans, well I’m sure there’s SOME girls that are all about that but a majority of the girls I know that go to shows and have fun and dance however are not. But it seems girls are mostly targeted at shows for going “for the guys”, but do you ever often hear a girl at a show complaining “that guy is just here for the girls”, well quite frankly, most of the time, no.

The Impact of Stereotypes and Acceptance

I think the major factor of sexism within the scene has made some girls accept this stereotypical behavior and even embrace it just to avoid a confrontation with males. I believe that girls don’t really “accept” this term fully they just assume it as their role and therefore don’t attempt to fight back which is definitely a shame.

The Rise of Female Participation in the Scene

We have seen a lot of changes over the past few years by having considerably more girls getting out there giving it their all, making themselves known, and also helping the scene although we do have a few girls here and there that are here for the wrong reasons but then again…so are some boys.

Battling Prejudice and Encouraging Acceptance

We have let the term “scene slut” and “coat rack” ingrain itself in our minds to the point we usually automatically think, “girl at show I don’t know, must be here for that guy and must not like this music”. Although with both sexes this thought becomes prevalent, girls often seem the target. But in all honesty, there’s not even a ton of us in our local scenes (for the most part), we might as well just all learn to accept one another and you never know, you may just find some girls that feel the same as you.

Conclusion: Preventing Gender Role Stereotypes

Overall, I just think we shouldn’t judge anybody to prevent letting ourselves fall prey to any future gender roles.

do what you want
Written by fuckthescene on 2006-02-19 14:19:51when i see a female at a show, with or without a boyfriend, i judge her based on her actions. 
if she’s standing there, holding her bf’s coat in the corner, she generates a much worse image for herself than if she was in the front singing along. 
that’s it, right there. 
act a certain way and you will be received in accordance to those actions.
i hate being called a scene slut…
Written by catchxmyxheart on 2006-02-17 11:44:42ive been called a scene slut before and it pisses me off sooo much, i mean, ive only been into hardcore for the past year and a half, but i go to shows every single weekend, sits its for the music…granted my boyfriend is in a band, its not like im there strictly for him and to stare at him playing guitar…but i think that a lot of girls go to shows for the guys, and honestly, i dont mind them, as long as they arent bothering me and staring at my boyfriend, then they can be there all they want…but fuck that shit…if i was a “scene slut” would u know all the words to songs and run up for sing alongs and go into the pit? i dont think so…i know that im there for the music and to have fun, and i know that some arent, its their fault for spending their money on a show where they dont even like the music, oh well…i just think tis fucked up that if a girl talks to some dudes in a band, she’s automatically considered a coat rack..fuck that!
Written by xcmurdax on 2006-01-10 17:10:33I’m really lucky that I’m not a coat rack or a scene slut. I make guys hole my jacket sometimes (either that or I just resolve to wear it myself). I am very judgemental of chicks I don’t know, but I hardly like a lot of girls in general because they’ve always just let me down. I know of a lot of “scene sluts” who follow the infamous kids around town strolling behind them submissivley. In my opinion, there seem to be a lot of girls now that are pushing their way to the pit and becoming independent and devoid of the whole “coat rack” stereotype that is so often placed ont heir backs. This is reassuring.
Written by dismantlexme on 2006-01-08 22:35:22sorry we actually have a brain, honey.
bitch bitch bitch
Written by Guest on 2006-01-06 14:52:48you people over analysis everything. 
who the fuck cares. 
Written by caaaitlyn on 2005-12-19 00:36:12“A major problem within the scene is the way girls assume other girls are fakes” 
That is my problem, added onto the factor of my age. Many girls don’t take the time to get to know one another before they make a jugdement about who is fake and who isn’t. You’re totally right.
Written by dismantlexme on 2005-12-14 20:45:35yo guys, thanks for the comments and i don’t necessarily mean girls are forced to accept the term ‘coat rack’ but often there a plenty of girls that don’t let themselves stray away from that title and it is quite sad, if you know what i’m saying.
Written by Guest on 2005-12-14 18:39:54these stereotypes are rediculous, BUT girls do give in, they aren’t forced to accept the “coat rack”. Some girls dont like to dance, but they still have a good time. Dont get me wrong, i love seeing a girl in the pit and up in the front, there are only like 3 though…the rest of the girls i have seen or talked to A.) dont like the dancing, and dont want to get hurt, or B.) they have too much makeup on to smile, and would rather stand there in the front by the stage and bitch about how they keep getting smashed.i know that if i had a hxc or sxe girl then i would expect them to be in the pit or moving. i did that whole “take your girl to a show”…and i felt like i had to stand there with her to protect her and/or not piss her off… 
hit me up on A I M: xcall2armsx to talk more 
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Written by ActIIAntithesis on 2005-12-14 17:43:09Thre are a lot of factors that go into the evaluation of why someone is at a show. Sometimes, it’s to show of(I know plenty of younger kids who do that), sometimes they’re only hardcore because their boyfriends are, but sometimes they are there cause they love it. And it’s sad, but at least within my scene most of the girls are one of the first two. 
When I think of “scene sluts” I definitely think of a lot more guys. Here(in NC, 919) the guys have just an easier time of taking advantage of the girls, and they end up being the sluts. So its completely the opposite about what you’re saying, but the thing is: the girls are still the ones looked down upon. “Omg! you slept with him?!” While the guys are still congratulated. It’s sickening. 
I agree with the points you’ve made here, but I suppose my point is that even if you make the scene slut the male, the girl is still blamed
Written by Moshking207 on 2005-12-14 16:31:34
Written by beatofherdrum on 2005-12-14 16:13:51HAAAAY CANTOS. 
hahaha sweet article (as told before.)
Matt RHP
Written by Guest on 2005-12-14 15:59:55You’re totally right. These labels shouldn’t be assumed by male nor female. I speak for myself and all my friends; we ask anyone who is not going in the pit to hold our coats, $$, etc, whether it be a guy or a girl. They also reserve the right to tell us to fck off. LOL But with that in mind, I’d just like to say that it’s not ALWAYS a misogynistic degradation to be asked to hold a coat. Just a matter of whether you’re dancing or not. 
As for scene sluts…they Do exist and they sicken me as much as they do you I’m sure. 
Good article. 
Written by vegane on 2005-12-14 15:50:24you are so right. well written
Written by vegane on 2005-12-14 15:46:46you are so right. well written
Do what must be done!
Written by Moshking207 on 2005-12-14 15:41:24hey i love the scene and people in it. Yes their are scene sluts (sorry to offend anyone) but go just 2 hook up with next hott hardcore guy! but i have seen some girls fuckin rip up some floors, and make som guys look like dicks. The only thing i believe in is that if a girl is at a show(cant dance durning a moment really needed for some killa moves, just chill a little, and if your a girl whos their just for the music please be aware at all time i hate hitting girls/woman. “my mom taught me better then to ever bring down a girl beyond a level of mine, i am a huge mammas boy, an always will be, an my thought is one day you girls/woman wll be som kids great mother” lets all just have fun bring back the days of high fives and stage dives, back rolls, and fun! 
oooh an Kave girls are the best cause their just cool!  
peace love! 

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